SXSWi: Design Workflows at Work: How Top Designers Work Their Magic
This is a panel with some rock star designers. I saw Bryan Veloso at Webvisions—now he’s on a much bigger stage. Seems to have been a big year for him. I see his name everywhere.
Panelists:
- Bryan Veloso, Avalonstar
- Jeff Croft, World Online
- Veerle Pieters, Duoh!
- Kelsey Ruger, The Moleskin
Notes:
Anatomy of a Web Designer
- Gotta have fun at what you do
- Gotta have a hobby outside of what you do
- Kelsey: Play poker
- Bryan: Dancer (DDR)
- Jeff: Sharks, TV, movies, snowboard, sports
What’s a typical day like?
- Jeff: The World Company (Kansas), work in news room with editors, reporter, photographers
- Workspace is open and collaborative
- Kelsey up at 5 AM every day, others late sleepers
- Jeff checks email & feeds at home, gets in around 10:30
- Works on hardcore CSS & programming at work (no music)
- Design (Photoshop) is for evenings when being creative
- Veerle: Creative work, need music
- CSS work: Need complete silence
- Bryan: Can’t understand complete silence
- Feels like he’s dead if it is silent
- Thought he was the only one that NEEDED distractions until he met Kelsey
- Need IM, cats jumping on desk
- Jeff: Disruptive items
- Feeds, twitter, IM
- But these people still use them
- Kelsey: Twitter & IM a lot to get through the day
- Jeff: Goes invisible when needs to
- When someone IMs, feels he has to answer right now
- If Adium keeps bouncing, he’ll go crazy
What influences the way you work?
- Veerle: Started as print designer
- Web was a complete turnaround
- Bryan: Was a business guy, design was a hobby
- Can deal with clients
- Kelsey: Inspired by ADD, was trying everything
- Art, computers, etc.
- Jeff’s mom found out what was wrong with him: She said it was ADD.
- But he got tested and didn’t. Mom was so disappointed.
- Kelsey: Into <abbr title=”Getting Things Done”>GTD</abbr>
- GTD = System for productivity
- Bryan: Uses pink post-it notes (gray desk)
- You can’t not see the pink against the gray
- Jeff: Tied to the computer
- Ideas tend to be in Photoshop and Illustrator
- Bryan: The shower helps
- Veerle: Basecamp helpful for managing projects
- Customers get feedback on milestones
- Sketch books, too
- Jeff: From being a music major learned:
- How to relax
- Used to being on stage
- Used to improv (jazz)
- Kelsey is more “planny”, others more spontaneous
- Kelsey can’t focus on creativity with so many things bouncing around in head
- Bryan: Pulls himself out, goes and plays Final Fantasy
- Working from home:
- Veerle: Sometimes works in pajamas
- Bryan: No comment on how he gets ready for work
- International difference for Veerle:
- Way people communicate and give feedback
- Americans are warmer, giving good feedback
- What people influence you:
- Jeff: daughter, girlfriend, co-workers
- When working with others, name Photoshop layers
- Jeff: “I hate ‘copy’, don’t ever send me a document with ‘copy’ in it”
- Veerle: Working with a web site, tries to group them (header, footer, etc.)
- Kelsey: So meticulous with getting things done
- Has a 4 year old, 5 year old, and newborn. No work happens when he gets home
- Jeff: No distincition between work life and professional life
- No separation of personal and work in GTD stuff
- Bryan: If you get an idea, implement it.
- Don’t let it disappear. Some days you won’t do client work.
- Jeff: For those that work for “the man”, it’s important to have a boss that understands design is lifestyle and schedules need to be flexible
- Some days you may not get anything done, may not have any ideas
- Next day you may have five
Tools in your workflow
- Veerle: Illustrator, Photoshop
- Communiation: Skype, MSN, iChat
- Running business: ibis? (time tracker/invoicing), FileMaker Pro for invoicing
- CSS: CSSEdit, Dreamweaver for HTML (code view)
- CMS: Expression Engine
- Kelsey: If you use a tool, make sure you really know how to use it
- Jeff:
- Design: Photoshop, Illustrator
- Backend systems influence what he does: Django
- Data modeling up front (”content inventory”)
- Kelsey: Bascamp for management
- Jeff has Brussels clock for Dashboard
- Kelsey: Always have something to take notes
- Tape recorder, so he doesn’t Twitter while driving
- 30 second voice memo for phones
- Veerle: if almost falling asleep, that’s when she gets the most ideas
- But never does it, tries to remember the next morning
- Jeff: Not especially creative in the morning (or even afternoon)
- Tends to be creative late at night
- Important to have a boss that is cool with that
- Kelsey’s music
- trance/techno = design
- rock/rap = coding
- If hiring designers, know what your competition does.
- Have fun.
Question: How do you deal with “How long is this going to take?”
- Jeff: Tell people more hours than you really think it will take
- Bryan: Take what it would take to do a personal job and double it
- Veerle: If you look at it as one project, it is easier.
- But if you are working on five projects, it is trickier
- Kelsey: People want to do a good job and they want to do it quickly, tend to underestimate
Question: When presenting comps to a client when you’re not face to face, how do you do it?
- Bryan: By email or dev domain
- Never had a client that micromanaged and needed much explanation
- 3-line blurb was enough
Best practices for workflow
- Kelsey: Kelly Goto’s book
- Uses SugarCRM
Creative briefs or jump right in?
- Jeff, usually has either long term site designs or small one day things
- Short term, dive right in
- Long term, more planning
- Black box layouts (Veerle too)
- Jumping into HTML/CSS and skipping Photoshop was putting to many constraints
- Designs ended up being imageless
- Veerle gets wireframes from customer, very helpful
- Work freelance: Define what you’re doing up front
Dealing with infomania breaking workflow
- Jeff: Doesn’t listen to music, but will sometimes have headphones on
Broad talents vs. Specialized folks
- Kelsey: Get better work from people that understand both design and CSS
- Jeff: Happy Cog - they all know about everything
- Bryan: Sidebar creative
- Two are designers that understand programming
- Two are programmers that understand design
Minisite URL: designworkflows.com
What makes somebody able to work independently than in an office
- Kelsey: You have to like what you’re doing
- Internal responsibility
- Takes diligence, pretend you’re in an office
- Good designer does not mean business owner
Time tracking is the bane of existence
- Bryan: Tick
- Veerle: ibis
- Kelsey: Basecamp has time tracking too. (Doesn’t archive)
- Jeff: Working on multiple projects influences time spent on other projects
Update: Some notes @ SWSWDiary.
Update: Design Workflows is the companion site. Can’t wait to dig deeper into those interviews.
Thanks for the notes! It’s amazing how much of a blur that hour of my life is. I can hardly remember what we discussed. Nice to hear it back. Sounds like we were even mostly comprehendible.
Wow. I am impressed with the notes you got. I am going to add this to my wrap-up post.
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